tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post3933303307829020755..comments2024-03-23T22:18:02.189+11:00Comments on Outback Nerf: Mod: Motor Replaced Elite RayvenP13c30fch33s3http://www.blogger.com/profile/00203166690272497443noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-74877011862427711182016-03-09T16:17:51.258+11:002016-03-09T16:17:51.258+11:00Rhinos are basically identical to Falcons, only di...Rhinos are basically identical to Falcons, only difference being a minor motor can difference - Falcons have holes cut in the flat sides, Rhinos don't.<br />Rhinos were made specifically to replicate Falcons because Falcons were so good but became hard to source.P13c30fch33s3https://www.blogger.com/profile/00203166690272497443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-85645561067023429162016-03-09T11:43:56.357+11:002016-03-09T11:43:56.357+11:00I was really impressed at the performance for a 13...I was really impressed at the performance for a 130 motor. that rapid red was nailing the ranges and began to love it better than my 180 motor rapidstrike for the fact that you can go around corners with it. pity it wasnt mine:( rhinos have same performance?? rick_randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06789687426472148925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-34036169220883091272016-03-09T10:58:20.618+11:002016-03-09T10:58:20.618+11:00Don't bother getting Falcons, get Rhinos inste...Don't bother getting Falcons, get Rhinos instead. Falcons have become much harder to source, but Rhinos are easily available, and for the most part won't go out of stock for very long.<br />There are a number of Rhino sources, depending on where you live. Here in Australia you can get them from BlasterTech. In the UK, you have Blastersmiths UK. Singapore has Black Tactical. The US has Containment Crew and Duke Wintermaul (via Reddit or Facebook).<br />If you're after a whole lot of them (50+), you could contact the guy personally (rhino_aus in reddit).P13c30fch33s3https://www.blogger.com/profile/00203166690272497443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-7648952525661740542016-03-09T00:30:06.670+11:002016-03-09T00:30:06.670+11:00Where can i get cheap falcon motors en masse?? Th...Where can i get cheap falcon motors en masse?? Thanks again for the advice on the rapid red. (Hard to get now) now my female friend loves that beast and i wanted to get another one.:(rick_randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06789687426472148925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-34045495370013878222016-01-05T22:35:39.282+11:002016-01-05T22:35:39.282+11:00I think you may be getting a little confused, high...I think you may be getting a little confused, high torque would give both a fast spinup and maintain speed at high rates of fire. What you are describing is a situation in which the first instance describes having very heavy flywheels, while the second describes having very light flywheels. Heavy flywheels would spin up slow, but lose very little speed in rapid fire, while light flywheels would spin up super fast, but lose a lot of speed in rapid fire.<br />Since we Nerfers want both fast spinup and no speed loss, the way our top recommended motors have both is by having high torque, but also a higher than necessary top speed. The minimum speed of a flywheel for maximum muzzle velocity is around 25000 RPM, however a max speed motor spinning at that speed will decelerate below 25k RPM when firing a dart. As such, most top aftermarket motors spin above 30k RPM as well as having buttloads of torque.<br />The MTB RHino 130 for instance has enough torque for a spin-up of less than half a second, while its top speed at 12V is 36k RPM, well above what's necessary. The guy who ordered the MTB Rhinos calculated that Rhinos/Falcons could sustain a ROF of about 14 darts per second (I think) without losing muzzle velocity (flywheels dropping below 25k RPM).<br />180 Blades spin up to just over 30k RPM at 7.4V, but have twice the torque of Rhinos/Falcons, and so spin up almost instantly, and can sustain something like a 20 dart per second ROF (possibly even more) without losing muzzle velocity.<br /><br />Yes, 130s generally don't have that great torque, Rhinos/Falcons are already pushing it for 130 sized motors. I don't think you could get much more without rare earth magnets or something. Rhinos/Falcons have enough torque to run a standard Rapidstrike build already though, the only things you'll need more torquey motors for are running metal flywheels or running a ridiculously high ROF Rapidstrike (more than ~15dps). P13c30fch33s3https://www.blogger.com/profile/00203166690272497443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-85700164606172038402015-03-21T00:40:12.155+11:002015-03-21T00:40:12.155+11:00Thanks for the insight FDS.
The only reason I didn...Thanks for the insight FDS.<br />The only reason I didn't go with 180s is because I didn't want to cut the shell knowing I would probably butcher the motor covers.<br />I do intend to switch to using LiPos soon, once I get the money to get the charger and connectors. Given my next flywheel build will probably be a Rapidstrike, I'll most likely be going with a standard 180 2s setup, which will be easily powered once I get aforementioned LiPo charger.<br />Who knows, if the 180 RS goes well enough I might even have to re-remotor my Rayven with 180s.P13c30fch33s3https://www.blogger.com/profile/03971776453540415024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7516405105463063210.post-24922506907931018312015-03-20T20:49:50.751+11:002015-03-20T20:49:50.751+11:00If you run thise Mach dashes ftom a 1s Lipo you wi...If you run thise Mach dashes ftom a 1s Lipo you will get much better performance. As it is you are choking them with the batteries you have. They are not a great Nerf motor in the first place.<br />All the 130 motors run hot and don't offer the claimed gains vs a 180 set up. All those people posting 120fps claims for Falcons etc are not measuring properly. The most reliable measurements I have seen are a 98fps average, well below a 2s 180 rig. <br />If you wanted more power out of that Rayven you would have been better off putting an extra IMR in the tray. With the motors run in, 3 is fine for occasional use. I have 2 stryfes, both 2 years old that have run 3 IMR for a game a month without any motor failure.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950865980007553718noreply@blogger.com